{"id":1720,"date":"2019-01-06T16:40:40","date_gmt":"2019-01-06T15:40:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/?p=1720"},"modified":"2021-11-21T19:22:09","modified_gmt":"2021-11-21T18:22:09","slug":"un-ancetre-tyrolien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/?p=1720","title":{"rendered":"Un anc\u00eatre tyrolien&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/tyrolien.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1725\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/tyrolien-176x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"176\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/tyrolien-176x300.jpg 176w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/tyrolien.jpg 469w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 176px) 100vw, 176px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Effectivement, j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9couvert un anc\u00eatre tyrolien dans mon ascendance ! Il s&rsquo;agit de <strong>Joannes Brendell<\/strong> mari\u00e9 le 4 octobre 1699 \u00e0 Dudelange (Dudlingen) au Luxembourg avec Margaretha Seilers.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est un anc\u00eatre du grand-p\u00e8re paternel, Jacques Frantz, de mon arri\u00e8re-grand-m\u00e8re paternelle Germaine Frantz, famille dont j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 parl\u00e9 <a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/?p=1580\">ici<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1742\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2-300x216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2-300x216.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2-768x554.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2-1024x739.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell2-624x450.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><em>(source : Heredis 2019)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>La petite t\u00e2che verte \u00e0 la 6<sup>e<\/sup> g\u00e9n\u00e9ration, c&rsquo;est lui ! Dans son acte de mariage, il est indiqu\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0ex Suls tirolensis\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1743\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers-300x78.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"78\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers-300x78.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers-768x200.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers-1024x267.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers-624x163.jpg 624w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Brendell-x1699-Seilers.jpg 1809w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai bien trouv\u00e9 un Sulz au Vorarlberg, r\u00e9gion voisine du Tyrol.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1721 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sulz5-624x415.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><em>Sulz, Vorarlberg, Autriche<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Tout \u00e0 l&rsquo;ouest le Vorarlberg \u00e9tait-il assimil\u00e9 au Tyrol ?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1722\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1-300x228.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"228\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1-300x228.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1-768x583.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1-1024x778.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1-624x474.jpg 624w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Tyrol1.jpg 1521w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>En tout cas, dans cette carte ancienne du Tyrol, la r\u00e9gion de Feldkirch contenant Sulz est bien pr\u00e9sente.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1723\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378-300x190.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"190\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378-300x190.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378-768x487.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378-624x396.jpg 624w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/csm_Tirolkarte-1700_83211c1378.jpg 946w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mais je n&rsquo;ai pas trouv\u00e9 de Brendell \u00e0 Sulz-m\u00eame bien que ce soit un nom pr\u00e9sent dans les villages voisins&#8230; Les habitants de Sulz \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque sont dans le registre paroissial de Rankweil o\u00f9 on trouve quelques Brendell, Brendel, Brendl, Brendle,&#8230; Seulement 2 couples dans la p\u00e9riode et aucun enfant Joannes !<\/p>\n<p>D&rsquo;autres autrichiens se sont \u00e9tablis \u00e0 Dudelange:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Laurent Seiller \u00ab\u00a0austriacus\u00a0\u00bb x6 2 1687<\/li>\n<li>Jacobus Joachim &lsquo;tirolensis ex Pratz\u00a0\u00bb x 22 11 1693<\/li>\n<li>Dominicus fils de Petrus Spies fabri lignaris Tirolensis b15 3 1666<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Cette r\u00e9gion \u00e9tait sous domination des Habsbourg quand la France ne la revendiquait pas&#8230; On trouve d&rsquo;ailleurs la mention du d\u00e9c\u00e8s de Charles II d&rsquo;Espagne dans le registre de Dudelange:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1726\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II-300x80.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"80\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II-300x80.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II-768x205.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II-1024x273.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Charles-II-624x166.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Et avant lui, celui de Philippe IV d&rsquo;Espagne:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1730\" src=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV-300x79.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"79\" srcset=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV-300x79.jpg 300w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV-768x201.jpg 768w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV-1024x269.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Philippe-IV-624x164.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Effectivement, j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9couvert un anc\u00eatre tyrolien dans mon ascendance ! Il s&rsquo;agit de Joannes Brendell mari\u00e9 le 4 octobre 1699 \u00e0 Dudelange (Dudlingen) au Luxembourg avec Margaretha Seilers.<span class=\"more-link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/?p=1720\">Lire la suite&#8230;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":1725,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[127],"tags":[],"class_list":["entry","author-pantaleonmondeguerre","has-more-link","post-1720","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-quartier-biron"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1720","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1720"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1720\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6326,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1720\/revisions\/6326"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1725"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biron-rivet.fr\/pistedemesayeuls\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}